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My mom and stepdad were in assisted living on south Florida for a total of 9 years between them from 2010-2019 and all the aides and caregivers were Haitians. They were angels. My stepdad passed away 6 years before mo mom and her last 3 years were on home hospice in AL. I have stayed in touch with a few of them ever since then and am so sad and angry about this, They were caring, honest, loyal, reliable and cared for each other and all their patients. While management changed hands many times, the aides, kitchen staff, cooks, maintenance staff, etc stayed constant. I never asked nor did I care about their status and this will decimate care in many facilities and privately particularly in that part of the country, I have no idea how this void will be filled and it will be a void. I got to be closed with a few of the angels over the years and they all left horrific conditions in their country and through hard work and dedication made a good decent life for themselves and their families. A travesty.

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Do old folks hog jobs, lowering quality? Are they responsible for how much health care costs our economy? I'm 76, solidly senior, and I say yes to a chunk of the accusation. (I could say "Boomer," but I hear the term used as a deindividualizing code word for old folks.)

I've known some people who didn't git when they should have got, including my former dentist, from what the specialists putitng my mouth back together tell me. We've seen this in industry as well, in government as well. Most of the time, though, I've seen old folks step down while they're still sharp and mentally competent. I'm mighty glad that I still can tap institutional knowledge, or just personal experience, held by people long familiar with the work I'm grappling with. I still tap people in their 80s and 90s; I in turn still am called on, regularly, by professionals my age or a generation younger. I'm worse off when colleagues, SMEs who are a decade younger than me, vacate their places for younger, less-useful colleagues. In short, the job-hogging, quality-lowering claim sometimes is valid, but as a generalization it strikes me as hogwash.

Not so clear is the claim about healthcare costs. I enjoy the benefits of social security and medicare. I paid into the system, and didn't call Medicare my primary insurance till I was well into my 70s. Am I getting no more than my due? That's an awfully hard call. Yes, any insurance system is a gamble, predicated on the notion that if I am wonderfully healthy, my years of paying premiums subsidize the treatment of those who drew bad cards--and vicer versa. But who'd'a foreseen the kind of costs that go into keeping me alive, if not kicking (until a good while after a possible knee replacement)? Paying for healthcare does kinda look like a pyramid scheme.

I don't pretend to have a good answer. One obvious answer is to kill off the old and frail, unless they're wealthy and have good advocacy. We saw this solution during early COVID, with the horrible mortality rates in eldercare facilities, or granny warehouses, or whatever we want to call them. We may see something similar now, as immigrants who served as caretakers are deported, leaving care that doesn't deserve the name, with similar, predictable results--only at the micro-level, one disabled person developing bed sores, and declining, at a time; another dying at home, with no one checking in for just too long.

People like me, with medicare, medigap, family, literacy, and an engaged community, we may do okay. Of course, to falsify part of the economic logic that supports getting rid of the helpless and not-now-productive, I doubt the medical costs of the rural, or poor, or uneducated, or inarticulate approach those of a geezer like me. So I'm (sort of) all right, Jack. But if my country goes down this route, it shows how badly Putin's asset has been stinking it up.

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